May 1, 2012
Posted in DID Education, DID/MPD, Dissociative Identity Disorder, Integration - yes or no, Internal Communication, mental health tagged Blended layers, Blending, Building Trust, Category for Integration, Dark insiders, DID / MPD, Discussing Dissociation, Dissociative Identity Disorder, Dissociative Walls, Genuine relationships, Healing, Healing Process, In my opinion, Integration, Internal Communication, Internal splitting, Internal Worlds, is integration necessary?, Kathy Broady, lures into darkness, Safety, Singleton, Splits, Talking Together, Talking with your insiders, Team work, Treatment Goals, Treatment Goals for DID at 2:39 am by Kathy Broady
Hello Everyone,
I hope you are doing well today.
This will be a short post, but I made an important update to the Discussing Dissociation blog and wanted to be sure that you all knew about it.
I have been asked repeatedly about my views on integration. I’ve written posts and comments about this topic, but unfortunately, I didn’t create a “category” for these posts. So now, with the 170+ articles on this blog, these posts and comments are difficult to find. Of course! This means it’s time to simplify this topic search for everyone, and to make it simpler for the Discussing Dissociation readers to find these blog articles.
If you look on the right side of this page, scroll down until you see the Categories drop-down box. I’ve added the category “Integration – yes or no” to this feature.
This drop-box will link you to here.
I’m assuming, in all my many blatherings on this blog that I’ve made more comments about integration than just what is written in these two blog articles. However, this link is a good start. If anyone finds comments about integration in other articles, please let me know, so I can be sure to add that article to the category list as well.
In case you don’t have time to read the other articles at the moment, I’ll give you a quick summary of what I think about integration right here in this post.
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Quick Thoughts about Integration – Kathy Broady’s Opinions:
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Is integration necessary?
Absolutely not.
Is integration beneficial?
I doubt it.
Is integration the ultimate peak / proof of healing for dissociative trauma survivors?
Not at all.
Does integration need to be your treatment goal?
Not unless you say so. I wouldn’t ever ever make it a treatment goal for any of my clients.
If integration is not the treatment goal, what is?
Team work. Lowering the dissociative walls between internal people. Internal communication. Talking together. Not hiding information from each other. Building trust and genuine relationships within your system. Learning to genuinely love and care for each other.
Do you, Kathy, think that integration is possible?
Honestly? Not really. Not complete and “total” integration. I have not yet met anyone who integrated in such a way that they stayed integrated permanently for the rest of their life. I have not even met anyone that I would say has been integrated successfully for years of time. I have heard the stories of many such claims, and met some of these people, but in my opinion, none of the “integrated” people that I have ever talked with were able to literally demonstrate true integration. They were still very multiple in oh so many ways.
I’m not convinced that a person who has lived most of their entire life as a multiple can literally change their brain in such ways to become a singleton. Besides, what would be the point anyway?
Do you think that blending is possible?
Yes, absolutely. To me, blending and coming closely connected together in a co-conscious ways are very different from integration. Blending does not imply a complete union of absolutely everyone. It is perfectly natural, normal, and healthy for some of the splits to become more blended together, especially those parts that are already very close to each other. If their blending happens naturally, that is great. You cannot force blending to happen, and it doesn’t happen instantly. It is a very gradual process that happens over years of excellent therapy, healing work, and genuine external safety. If there is any kind of “forcing” or demanded blending under duress or coercion or deception, you can bet that those insiders will step back and separate again in the not so distant future.
Do you think that integration keeps you safe?
Ummmm…. No. In fact, I think that claims of integration can lead to the very opposite of safety. Why? Because I think that real and genuine integration so very rarely happens (if ever), that when someone begins to believe that they are integrated, this is the beginning of some really dangerous times. This typically means, in my experience, that some of the top layers of the system may have blended together, and/or learned how to work well together, but the darker under-layers of the system have hidden behind very thick dissociative walls. This is extremely dangerous because the dark parts are able to function without being noticed, and the top layers of the system are too busy being proud or protective of their integration and/or completely absorbed in their outside lives that they don’t notice the dark rumblings behind the wall.
Do you think that integrated multiples are safe leaders for other dissociative survivors?
No. Not that I have seen. In my opinion, it is much more likely that the alleged “integrated multiple” has very neatly hidden or shoved away their dark sides, even if they do not realize this. All the claims in the world of being integrated do not actually make someone integrated.
In fact, following the leadership of someone who alleges to be an “integrated multiple” can be extremely dangerous for others, especially for those who are newer in their healing process. You would be safer to run 100 miles in the other direction than to assume that an integrated multiple is “automatically” a safe person.
I know many of you will not like these statements, and it is ok if you disagree. I am not meaning to offend you. We each have our own opinion and our own experiences in life. Let me repeat this, because it is so very important. In my years of experience, “integrated multiples” have more often than not been used as lures, and in reality, they are people who have not completed HUGE areas of work, and they are not automatically “safe” people. Going further into this topic is an entirely different blog post, but in my opinion, there is a whole whopping lot of danger in this area. PLEASE be careful when you meet an “integrated multiple”.
I am very aware that there are many multiples who have had spiritually-based integrations. That is yet another complicated topic, to be discussed at another time.
Ok – this was going to be short (and of course, it’s not short!!), so I’ll stop at this point. I can feel the waters already getting stirred out there. Ah well. What is life without controversy, yes?
IF I thought integration was a great thing, I would certainly say so. I just haven’t seen it as such.
What about you?
Do you have any comments about integration?
Warmly,
Kathy
Copyright © 2008-2012 Kathy Broady and Discussing Dissociation
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March 13, 2012
Posted in Child Alters, DID Education, DID/MPD, Dissociative Identity Disorder, Puppies, Stories for Child Insiders tagged Building Trust, Child parts with DID, Children's Story, DID / MPD, Dissociative Identity Disorder, Emma the pug, Guarding the internal children, Introducing Maizy, Kathy Broady, Maizy, making new friends, Meeting new people, New relationships, Pictures of Emma, Protecting Child Parts, pug dogs, Puppies, Rushing into relationships, Safe Relationships, Working with child parts at 10:32 pm by Kathy Broady
Hello to Everyone out there in the Blogging World –
Over the past weeks and months, I’ve been bouncing around to a few different places, sometimes with internet connection, and sometimes not. Today, I do have internet connection.
I thought I’d say a quick hello while I could today.
Hello!
(that’s my version of a quick hello, ha ha ha)
Ok, so with all silliness invited, I also wanted to introduce you to a good friend of mine. Her name is Maizy, and she has been bouncing around with me lately. Not many people have met Maizy yet. She’s a little shy, and she doesn’t really get out much. But Maizy is a kind-hearted Maizy, and maybe with a little encouragement, she just might be willing to spend a little time with you.
I was hoping that maybe just maybe Maizy could share some of her aMaizyng Maizy adventures with you, especially with some of the DID kids of the world. There are always lots of fun things to learn and share with kids who have seen too much pain and sorrow and troubles in their young lives. Maybe Maizy can become a helpful and comforting friend to those kids too?
Would you kids like to meet Maizy and hear stories about how she gets through her tough times in life? Would you like to hear some aMaizyng Maizy stories?
I think I can encourage Maizy to share some of her life experiences with you all.
With the help of Emma. 
Before she comes out here on her own, Maizy wants you to see her with her friend Emma.
Do you remember Emma?
Have a little peek at a few blogs back. Emma has had her picture in here a few times already. Emma Girl is very sweet and enormously precious to me. Emma knows. She isn’t fooled by anyone.
As far as I am concerned, Emma is one of the most beautiful pug dogs in the whole wide world. Anybody that’s ever heard Emma knows that she snorts and sneezes and snitzles and schwizchles with the biggest variety of puggy noises. Emma has a wonderful heart and she is a very very smart puggy with a great big vocabulary, and she can sniff out the very best in anybody and everybody. And Emma knows Maizy.
A picture can show it better than I can, so I’m including some pictures of when Emma first met Maizy. As you can see, Emma gave Maizy a very good look and checked her out carefully. Emma is not easily tricked and she only friends up with those that are safe and good, and have kindness in their hearts. Even when kids don’t know that they have good hearts, Emma can sniff out the good in them. Emma knows. She knows that lots of kids are good kids.


Emma checking out Maizy!
You can see in the pictures that Emma gave Maizy a good thorough check. Emma was not sure at first, but she looked and sniffed and woofed and looked and sniffed and woofed some more. Finally, Emma decided Maizy was a pretty good Maizy, that Maizy.
Emma knows that it is important to check very carefully when you meet someone new. She knows to not rush head-over-heels too quickly when first meeting someone. Good, solid relationships take a lot of time to build and develop, and the super-speed attraction approach is often not so safe, and/or it ends up crashing too quickly with emotional overload and overwhelming intensity. Emma knows to not say too much, and she knows to not disclose too much personal information when first meeting someone. She knows it is important to make sure someone is not pretending to be someone that they are not, and that often takes a fair bit of time to figure all that out.

Emma woofing at Maizy!
Emma says not to rush into building any kind of relationship with anyone! She says it is more important to ask more questions to the other person than it is to tell information about you. The more you know about the other person, the better you can decipher if he or she is a safe person or not.
It’s important to be careful, and to know that there are people out there in the world that are not going to be kind to you. Please protect yourself and guard your little ones carefully while you are getting to know who the other person is.
So with all those self-protection cautions in mind, here’s Maizy.
Hi Maizy!
Copyright © 2008-2012 Kathy Broady and Discussing Dissociation
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January 22, 2012
Posted in DID Education, DID/MPD, Dissociative Identity Disorder, Internal Communication, Maggies, Therapy Homework Ideas, Trauma tagged Aggressive, Aggressive Personalities, Building Trust, Bullies, Bullying, Crows, Dealing with bullies, DID / MPD, DID Survivors, DID System Work, Dissociative Identity Disorder, Internal Communication, Internal System Work, Kathy Broady, magpies, Protecting your Child Parts, Scary Behavior, Stories about birds, Surviving Trauma, System Work, What to do about bullying at 6:28 pm by Kathy Broady
Continuing on with the magpie stories, I’m pleased to tell you about another interesting magpie.
Please note – I am not an expert on magpies by any means. I write stories based only on my personal observations and personal experiences with the birds themselves. I really know nothing about them!
Also, please note – this story has a few sections that could be upsetting for young readers. Please let your older ones read first, and decide after that if you want your littles to read it on their own.
Ok, on to the maggie tales…
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As I spent interacting time with the young maggie babies, I gradually noticed a few other birds that hung around as well. One of the first and most obvious birds was a bigger, closer to full-grown magpie bird.
In fact, this adult maggie was around so much that I began to wonder if she was the momma maggie. And then I noticed that according to the coloring of its feathers, that this big bird was likely a male bird, so I wondered if he was the daddy maggie. Either which way, I initially assumed that this adult looking pie was likely a parental type to some of the many younger pies that stayed close, always warbling with their pretty songs. I had observed several of adults birds taking the time to feed their young from the treats that I provided, and I guessed this big bird was just parenting in his own style.
But there was something different about this bigger bird. I knew that the younger pie babies were very cautious of him. Some were obviously scared of him. The little pies would either fly away, or stay much further away, or sit very still and fade into the background whenever the big bird swooped into the balcony area. And if the big guy wanted the snack, he got it. The younger pies clearly knew to give the older pie the right of way immediately. No questions asked.
To my surprise, if any of the younger pies were a little too slow in moving out of his way, this big bully bird would charge directly at them, flap his wings fast with aggression, squawk loudly, and do whatever he needed to do to clear the others away as quickly as possible. Sometimes he flew at them like a speeding maggie torpedo. Other times he would land on the balcony and act like he completely owned the space, all puffed and fluffed with his aggressive nature.
I don’t know how the little pies could hear – sense (?) – feel (?) when this big bully pie was flying into our little nibbling corner. I very often didn’t even realize the Big Boy was nearby until the groups of little ones suddenly scattered off in a big noisy flurry of flapping wings.
Just by flying in my direction, Bully Bird was able to send the others packing off, practically clearing out the entire area for himself in just a matter of seconds.
At first, my response was to also be immediately cautious and respectful of this incoming fast-swooping bird. I knew that magpies could be vicious with their beaks, and his size and strength and speed were not something I wanted to mess around with. I was irritated that he kept interrupting my tea parties with the young pies. I was not at all happy about his mean bully ways. You could say that I was scared of him too. I certainly was not quick to hand-feed this guy! I kept my distance and made slow gentle moves when he was near, trying to soothe the little pies, saying it would be ok, and they’d still get their treats once this Bully Bird moved on down the road.
Then one day, an observation made by my friend made all the difference in the world.
While Bully Bird and I were being very cautious of each other, my friend, who was watching from the side, noticed that Bully Bird had a very unusual condition.
I had to move to the other side to see, but I looked closely, and then I saw it too. And what I saw changed everything for me.
With a close look at Bully Bird, we could see that he had somehow, somewhere, lost one of his eyes. Mr. Bully Bird was a one-eyed pie! He couldn’t see anything on the one side of his head, nor was there any hope that he would ever be able to regain the sight on that side of his head.
In that instant, my feelings towards Bully Bird changed completely. I realized he was struggling to survive just like the little younger pies were doing. I also realized he had a life-long disadvantage that kept him needing extra care and attention. And, I realized that he was in more danger and had more life difficulties than I had ever imagined.
I changed my approach to my One-Eyed Pie (including changing the name I called him), and began to make sure that he had extra food tossed in his direction. He immediately became a priority to me, and I was quick to make sure to reward him with some treat of some kind whenever he showed up.
I told the other little pies that we needed to try to become friends with One-Eyed Pie, and to help him since he had clearly had some very difficult times in his life.
Gradually, One-Eyed Pie began to trust me. He let me inch closer and closer to him, and eventually, he inched closer to me as well. He began to take his treats from my hand. He was certainly more cautious about this process than most of the other pies. While trying to decide if he could trust me, he had to also keep turning his head all around to look around to make sure no one else was going to swoop on him. The local groups of aggressive crows were notorious for taking food from the magpies, and the crows were easily double in size of even the largest of pies. One-Eyed Pie was smart to be careful. To look at me, and to look at the food I was offering him meant that he couldn’t be looking out in the world to protect himself from other predators. He was taking a big risk just to get close to me.
Once I was able to stand close to One-Eyed Pie, I realized that he had survived more than his painful eye injury. He had all kinds of scars around his head, especially on the top of his head. Clearly, this bird had seen some rough days. His wounds were all healed, so they were not recent, but the scars were going to be with him for life. New feathers did not grow through the scar tissue.
One-Eyed Pie and I began to talk every day, and usually more than once a day. We were becoming friends, and he was becoming much more comfortable with me. The more I saw him, the more I could see how beautiful he was.
Instead of snatching the food from me in a rushed hurry, he began to take his time, and nibble bits and pieces with comfort and ease. He still watched for the crows, but he was not stressing when I was near him.
I also noticed something else. As One-Eyed Pie and I became friends, his behavior towards the other younger pies improved drastically. He knew that he was going to be treated with respect from me, and he stopped bullying the babies. He stopped being so aggressive towards the other little ones and no longer charged them. The little maggies were able to sit closer to him, and they were able to come closer to me while he was around. One-Eyed Pie was fitting in more with the group.
Once he was seen for who he really was, and once his needs were more accurately met, One-Eyed Pie stopped acting like a bully.
Amazing. And how exciting to see this transformation happen right before my eyes.
One-Eyed Pie is a great magpie. He’s truly beautiful. Strong. Brave. And wonderful. He’s earned my respect, and he is a bird I will never forget.
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The parallels of this story for DID survivors is obvious and layered.
First of all, I have never met a DID system that did not have at least one bully / aggressive part. Even if hidden deep inside, or kept in the background, or kept separate from outside interactions, these mean insiders are typically very active within the internal system.
The bully-type insiders typically carry a lot of weight around the younger parts, typically intimidating them and bossing them around. Sometimes these bully parts actually hurt the others inside.
And, in my experience, all bully parts within the DID system have had their own trauma history, even if they don’t want to admit that for the longest time. They will typically hide the fact that they have been hurt in the past, but once you gain their trust, you will be able to find out more about how they were hurt, when, where, etc.
Once you are aware of them, the bully parts need to become your priority. They will need your time, your attention, your patience, and your understanding. These parts are extremely important in your system, and the more you work to get to know them, the better. They can fit nicely within your group, but you will have to work at that.
The rewards of gaining the trust of your bully parts are enormous. Gaining their cooperation and friendship will bring a level of strength and peace into your system that you will not expect, or regret.
Get to know your bullies. They are worth it.
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Copyright © 2008-2012 Kathy Broady and Discussing Dissociation
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